|I like you too Old Ironsides, but you are not relevant to this post.|
Now, as far as I'm concerned that should be the end of the discussion. You are free to have your own opinions on whether things are right, moral, etc., but you are not allowed to deny someone else their rights because of your religious beliefs or tomes. Simple. Some of the same people who would march on Washington, rifles in hand, should anyone suggest altering the Second Amendment to exclude, say assault rifles, will stand there with a perfectly straight face and sense of moral superiority and in cavalier fashion talk about trampling the First Amendment - because they disagree with what it guarantees ALL Americans.
We all know we can't have this discussion without addressing the Bible specifically, even though that should NOT BE THE CASE. So I will address it. Christianity is the religion based on the teachings of Christ. The teachings of Christ are contained exclusively in the New Testament. We've adopted the Old Testament as a preamble of sorts to the New, but Jesus wasn't alive for any of that. Jesus didn't hate anyone, he didn't exclude anyone from His salvation, and he was not judge and jury for anyone. He preferred to leave those things between God the Father and the person in question. Nowhere does He personally address homosexuality, nor does He ever condemn anyone for anything.
Religious talking heads will scrape about for any sign that Jesus condemned homosexuality, but the proof just isn't there. Jesus didn't endorse the law of Moses, He just said that if someone wasn't religious, or didn't believe the law of Moses, how would they believe Him, as He was speaking from the standpoint of the religious-minded. For such an important topic, one would think the Son of God might make specific mention of it. Of course, we as mere mortals cannot truly know what the divine mind thinks, but all evidence suggests that He was not the type to single out a group for derision or exclusion, and it's getting a little old listening to people who want to put such words into His mouth and thoughts into His mind. As if you could possibly fathom the motives of God. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" is one of my favorite sayings of His. He also excoriated us to follow His example - to love our neighbors and treat them as we would like to be treated. End of discussion. Seriously. Now get on with making your own life reflect that of Christ's as He asked you to do. That is the commitment you make when you call yourself Christian.
If none of this has convinced you that you have no business in other people's business, then you are not the type that changes their mind based on valid argument, but that is not going to stop me from taking one last stab at it. If marriage is an institution of religion, and you think the church should have a say in matters of the state (outlawing gay marriage) then what gives you the right to tell churches they cannot marry gays? Sounds to me like you're okay with infringing not just on the rights of a whole class of Americans, but also on the churches that do accept and welcome them. Something's rotten in Denmark, I say.
On the side of the Constitution yet? One last try: Suppose a whole mosque-load of Americans got together and voted to institute Sharia Law in their state. Since the people voted "yes" would it be okay, even though to do so would directly contradict the principles of equal rights, not to mention the establishment of religion clause of ...here it is again, the Constitution? Methinks an ugly double standard would rear it's head here because of the insertion of a non-Christian religion's beliefs into the equation. Take a long, hard look in the mirror, and ask yourselves, WWJD (What would Jefferson do?)™
*pun fully intended.